Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
Unrelating is an all new podcast that explores relationships, why we do what we do, and what causes people to "un-relate". Join Kelly & Michelle as they talk to real people about the relationship challenges they face and provide an expert to help them sort it all out.
Unrelating is hosted by show producer Kelly Beck and relationship expert Michelle Schafer. Michelle is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who has been providing individual and couple’s therapy for two decades.
Michelle has her Bachelor’s degree in Biopsychology and Cognitive Science from the University of Michigan and a Master’s in Clinical Psychology, with an emphasis in Marriage and Family Therapy, from Pepperdine.
Through her practice, she has seen patterns and themes that connect us as people. Her scientific background will help us learn about the brain mechanisms that influence our behavior. And her psychology background will help us figure out if we should continue in the relationships we’re in!
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And if you have a question, comment or would like to be a guest on the show, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
Latest Episodes
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Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 45 Deep Dive: Running Towards the Finish Line
In this deep dive of the episode featuring therapist Dan Duane, Michelle explores what we can do to be intentional and reflective about our life and death.To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us...
Running Into The Fire
Kel and Michelle sit down with new psychotherapist Dan Duane, who pivoted from a successful journalism career later in life, for a candid conversation on why men’s attitudes about the therapy profession are shifting, the desire to “run directly...
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 45 Deep Dive: Could You Be My Neighbor?
In this Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 45 Deep Dive, Michelle talks about what happens when you start to notice the world through the eyes of someone with different challenges and how we don't need to be afraid of acknowledging the ...