Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
Unrelating is an all new podcast that explores relationships, why we do what we do, and what causes people to "un-relate". Join Kelly & Michelle as they talk to real people about the relationship challenges they face and provide an expert to help them sort it all out.
Unrelating is hosted by show producer Kelly Beck and relationship expert Michelle Schafer. Michelle is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who has been providing individual and couple’s therapy for two decades.
Michelle has her Bachelor’s degree in Biopsychology and Cognitive Science from the University of Michigan and a Master’s in Clinical Psychology, with an emphasis in Marriage and Family Therapy, from Pepperdine.
Through her practice, she has seen patterns and themes that connect us as people. Her scientific background will help us learn about the brain mechanisms that influence our behavior. And her psychology background will help us figure out if we should continue in the relationships we’re in!
Follow us on Instagram @unrelatingpocast and be sure to download us on Apple, iHeart, Spotify, Youtube, or wherever you get your podcasts!
And if you have a question, comment or would like to be a guest on the show, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
Latest Episodes
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 48 Deep Dive: Partners in Clarity - How to Balance True Expectations
In this deep dive for Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 48 featuring Maddison Violet, Michelle talks about how helpful it is to be accurate when voicing your expectations.Find Maddison Violet and Ve Oh Lay Winery @veohlayacres
Partners In Wine: How To Balance Marriage And A Winery
Have you ever dreamed of calling all the shots? Kel and Michelle sit down with Maddison Violet, owner of Ve Oh Lay Winery and Farm in Summerland, Canada, to discuss how she and her husband followed their dream and started a winery, the secret t...
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 47 Deep Dive: Reimagining The Root Cause
In this deep dive for Unrelating With Kel & Michelle featuring Mark Michaels, Michelle discusses how early relationships impact our attachment to others.In his preprint BINARIES, MULTITUDES, AND BEYOND, available now at
Reimagining Therapy
Ready to reimagine how you’re approaching therapy? Kel and Michelle sit down with writer and conceptual artist Mark Michaels to discuss the problems with traditional therapy and why people may feel disillusioned, both the benefits and the limit...
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 46 Deep Dive: Are You Just a Teenage Dirtbag, Baby?
On this week's deep dive of Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 46 with Meehika Barua, Michelle reflects on how young people are having to navigate the world these days.Meehika Barua can be reached at